From stekell at lternet.edu Fri Feb 13 15:07:50 2004 From: stekell at lternet.edu (Steve Tekell) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:07:50 -0700 Subject: [seek-web] discussing the Seek Web site and related tools Message-ID: <402D58C6.6010703@lternet.edu> Hello, I am the new guy - Senior Web Designer for the seek web site. I am open to discussing the Seek web site and related web tools. I am lookin for any input and opinions about the site (it's future that is). I am trying to get a grip on what the needs and requirements are. I don't won't to hastily put and support up tools which don't fit the actual needs. For example, you wouldn't want to try to cram a training course into a sequence of new articles, just because I put up a portal with no appropriate CMS for training. What are the use cases for the seek web site? Who will want to contribute content? How would these people want to contribute, author content? What is the nature of the content? -- so far I get that in falls into a few separate categories EOT - education, outreach and training Basic public communication about the project (maybe just facet of EOT?) "Internal" Site - for the seek community (collaboration, communication,...) Application Portal - web portal to the yet to be build seek applications (EcoGrid, etc). but after that, it's too vague. Beyond "content" what kind of functionality is needed? (Wiki, forums, blogs, news, etc) What are the most immediate needs? If there are other web developers on this list, I'd like to hear what you are doing, where and with what tools/technologies. I know the Seek team has set it's goal to stick with free/open (FLOSS) solutions that also meet any multi-platform needs. Sounds great to me, my programming background is in Java/J2EE using things like Struts, Hibernate, and other open source Java toolkits. Steve Tekell From stekell at lternet.edu Tue Feb 17 09:16:07 2004 From: stekell at lternet.edu (Steve Tekell) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:16:07 -0700 Subject: [seek-web] anyone familiar with Message-ID: <40324C57.7020202@lternet.edu> UW Calendar http://www.washington.edu/ucal/ uPortal http://mis105.mis.udel.edu/ja-sig/uportal/index.html From stekell at lternet.edu Tue Feb 24 09:25:18 2004 From: stekell at lternet.edu (Steve Tekell) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:25:18 -0700 Subject: [seek-web] FYI AIM screen name Message-ID: <000901c3fafb$2c44fd80$dd461881@LTERNET221> In case anyone else is using AIM (or an IM that can talk to AIM), my AIM screen name is stekellUNM Steve Tekell From stekell at lternet.edu Tue Feb 24 16:15:48 2004 From: stekell at lternet.edu (Steve Tekell) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:15:48 -0700 Subject: [seek-web] CMS and Portals Message-ID: <000d01c3fb34$84e72d80$dd461881@LTERNET221> In order to get us on the same page when discussing CMS and Portals, I've put a together a little intro for those who might be interested. =============================================== ====== CMS - "Content Management System" ====== ----------------------------------------------- A CMS provides features as such versioning, auditing, workflow, publishing, access control, content repositories, content creation tools and methods to bring manageability and order to a content-centric web site. A simple example would be a sytem used by an online newpaper. Articles are entered into a structured template and stored in a content repository (possibly a database). The article would then go through an approval process such that mutliple versions, editors approval and the future publication date are handled within the system which also controlls access for the different roles. After approval and according to publication date the article is published onto the public website. Of course content is more complicated than single articles and the nature of content can vary greatly between different domains. So a CMS will need to meet more complex situations and offer appropriate customizations. Some CMS solutions... Commercial CMS -------------- Vignette http://www.vignette.com/ Interwoven http://www.interwoven.com/ (plus most all major app vendors, IBM, MS, SAP, etc offer some CMS solution) FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) CMS --------------------------------------------- Plone http://plone.org OpenCMS http://www.opencms.org Red Hat CMS http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/cms/ Apache Lenya http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/ (there are tons of open source CMSes, 50-100, partly because they generally stink so people keep starting their own) Note: PostNuke is not a CMS, it's a Portal. Standards --------- In general there aren't any standards and it's very difficult to switch between or mix CMSes. JSR-170 (Java Specification Request #170 - Java Content Repositories) is coming, but I don't know how significant that it will be to the CMS world as a whole. Related Concepts: ----------------- CMF - Content Management Framework this is a set of technologies upon which you can build a CMS without having to do it from scratch. If no CMS met your needs you might then go to lower level and pick a CMF and build your own. Also, it's worth noting that there may be several CMSes using the same CMF. Plone and Easy Publisher are built on Zope. Lenya and Jetspeed v2 are going to use Jakarta (Apache) Slide. LMS - Learning Management System LCMS - Learning Content Management System. (more on these later, I hope) ======================================== ====== Portals (and Portlets) ======== ---------------------------------------- From dpennington at lternet.edu Thu Feb 26 12:50:04 2004 From: dpennington at lternet.edu (Deana Pennington) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:50:04 -0700 Subject: [seek-web] website Message-ID: <403E5BFC.8060304@lternet.edu> Following are links to websites of other nsf-funded cyberinfrastructure projects. Steve wants to see what other comparable projects are doing. I thought others might be interested, too. If you see something you especially like (functionality or just aesthetically), let Steve know. Deana Cen. Embedded Network Sensing http://www.cens.ucla.edu/ Community Climate System Model http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/csm/ Earth System Modeling Framework http://www.esmf.ucar.edu/ Earthscope http://www.earthscope.org/ Geon http://www.geongrid.org/ Grid Physics http://www.griphyn.org/index.php Internatl Virtual Data Grid http://www.ivdgl.org/ Linked Env. for Atmospheric Disc http://lead.ou.edu/ Neon http://www.nsf.gov/bio/neon/ NEESgrid (earthquakes) http://www.neesgrid.org/index.php Natl Virtual Observatory http://www.us-vo.org/ S CA EArthquake Center http://epicenter.usc.edu/cmeportal/ -- ******** Deana D. 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